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A powerful post on patriarchy

posted:  29:03:07,  by:  morethanstone,  in categories:  Blogosphere, Women, Patriarchy

From Bobbie at Emerging Sideways in a post entitled “pondering on patriarchy”

i realized as i wrote yesterday that this damaged their souls too. neither one of them “fit” the code or knew the rules. my mother was as passionate and outspoken as i am and my father was so content and happy behind the scenes helping everywhere he could. both of them were squeezed, prodded and shamed into becoming something at church that neither of them had the skills, spiritual gifts or natural inclination to be. respect for themselves and each other plummeted. and i could sense it like they sent of pheromones of falseness and fear, panic and confusion.

i began to wonder if the shame this type of enforced hierarchy brings imprisons not only the women forced into it, but also the men themselves.

Read the rest….

If you are interested in the Anglican schism….

posted:  29:03:07,  by:  morethanstone,  in categories:  Healing, Africa, Kingdom of God, homosexuality

HT to Max for this article.

For those of you following all the goings on in the Anglican Communion, a fascinating speech given by BISHOP MUSONDA TREVOR SELWYN MWAMBA of Botswana. If you have some time, hop over and read it. It’s a different view from Africa than the one that I have heard touted the most. If you are unfamiliar with the split in the Anglican Communion, at the most basic level, it’s about homosexuality. Some churches in the US (and elsewhere in the West) have split from ECUSA and joined AMIA. (And if you ARE unfamiliar with this schism, where HAVE you been?)

One thing I have wondered during this whole thing, is how does power and $$ play into this? AMIA now has 109 affiliates with over 70 other groups in various stages of formation. How much $$ is now being directed to the provinces in Rwanda and Southeast Asia? Does this $$ play into the schism? Read a quote from Bishop Mwamba….

“The other factor influencing the voices from Africa is numbers and the almighty dollar!

These factors can be seen to influence – and at times bring pressure to bear, or even manipulate the situation. Where does ‘power’ lie in the present debate? The provinces in Nigeria have collectively the largest number of Anglican members in the world – more than the Church of England and ECUSA combined! America has long been generous in its hospitality and support for African church projects and its leaders, however, in the current situation, the almighty dollar has been used to strengthen the voice and position of some African bishops who have been invited to the States and given generous incentives. Very tempting indeed for a bishop from a poor African diocese to be feted and offered funds by his American hosts, if he endorses the party line!

One of the things that amazes me in this whole debate is the manner in which lobbying, very peculiar to America, has been used to influence opinion, decisions, and relationships, which results in the creation of a culture of ‘them’ and ‘us’, ‘in’ and ‘out’, and never shall the twain meet. The success of this lobyying has been assisted mainly by the dissemination of information on the internet.”

I am not implying that the Bishops that support the separation of US churches from ECUSA do not have strong beliefs and convictions. I am saying, however, that money has a great potential to corrupt and confuse issues.

Another quote from the Bishop.

” One is reminded of Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland, the King sitting as a judge orders the jury to consider their verdict even before the trial has began. And the Rabbit hastily interrupts, “Not yet, not yet! There is a great deal to come before that!”

Yes, there is a great deal to come from the listening process and so we all need patience the solution will not come today or tomorrow but most likely within the next 20 years or God’s time because God who was in Christ reconciling the world to himself, is also here today working for reconciliation in the Anglican Communion as we embrace different views of our faith. Reconciliation is the answer.”

Reconciliation is the answer. Hmmm. I think that perhaps this is a theme that continues to pop up. Isn’t this what God is about? Reconciling us to Him and to each other.

NOTE: I am adding this addendum to this post. I found a quote by Archbishop Kolini. (see AMIA.)

Quoting the Bible, Kolini said that Christians should always keep their bodies pure since the body is God’s temple. He said that yielding to acts of homosexuality is tantamount to committing genocide.

“In Rwanda we are spearheading the ‘Never Again’ notion. We had physical genocide and we can’t afford having another moral genocide,” he emphasized

Wow. This is so sad. Another genocide? This type of inflammatory rhetoric should NOT be allowed.

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Sword Drill

posted:  29:03:07,  by:  morethanstone,  in categories:  humor
You scored 100% on the SWORD DRILL!!! Bible Quiz!
 

OK, you must be a pastor’s kid. Or Philip Yancey.

Seriously, that is an impressive score. Good job. Too bad salvation comes through faith, not works. BURN. (Let’s hope not literally, though.)

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I just really liked commentary on my score. Thanks to Jenny for writing it.

God will journey with us

posted:  29:03:07,  by:  morethanstone,  in categories:  Mars Hill, Rob Bell

A quote from a Rob Bell Sermon entitled “Leaving control for faith”.

“In life, God never guarantees relationships, about when you’re going to move, when your going to move, where you’re going to stop, about where the provision comes from. The only guarantee you get is that God will journey with you. That’s all you get, that God will journey with you. Nope, I’m not gonna clean that up for you. I’m not going to spare you that. I’ll be with you. I’ll just go with you.

Is there anybody that you have been trying to control? Any relationship that is not going according to your divinely orchestrated plan and it’s time to surrender that person this lent season? God, I turn so and so over to you. Is it a child that has caused you many a sleepless night because they do not do what they’re supposed to? And you need to turn them over? Is there a circumstance, you have done everything you can to control it and it’s still not submitting and it so now it’s time to surrender… Have you had untold anxiety about where your provision is going to come from and all you have is today? Have you been trying to get God to confess what the 6 month plan is and it’s not happening? And today, this lent season, it’s God, I give you my future. I’m tired of worrying about things that are out of my grasp.

The guarantee we have is that God will journey with us. Not that it will be perfect or smooth, or even the short route. All we have is that God will journey with us. And journey with us some more, and journey with us some more. This lent season, is there any attitude of anxiety, manipulation, control, or worry? You need to let go.”

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